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Post by Yuri V.(The Bruce Campbells) on Apr 18, 2021 9:25:56 GMT -5
I've waived: Khem Birch Nic Claxton Gary Trent Jr Jerrod Vanderbilt
Each of these players have been signed by other teams after I've waived them.
Doesn't that mean that their salaries should come entirely off my payroll?
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Post by ucf (Air Republic) on Apr 18, 2021 10:24:17 GMT -5
Only if they received bids above the minimum do they come off (and only by the amount signed for).
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Post by Yuri V.(The Bruce Campbells) on Apr 18, 2021 10:31:59 GMT -5
Only if they received bids above the minimum do they come off (and only by the amount signed for). What about future years? Nic Claxton as an example has a guaranteed salary next year as per his rookie deal? Shouldn't that come entirely off as another team has signed him and will be on the hook for that?
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Post by youngstar (Scorpions) on Apr 18, 2021 14:47:08 GMT -5
We haven't changed the rules for that yet?
I agree with the principle though - if a different manager signs a player you cut, the new manager obviously picks up that player's deal, and the original manager should get full salary relief in future years.
If that is the same team, then I don't agree. Exhibit: Dewayne Dedmon. Think before you sign a player.
Might be a good time to discuss these, with the playoff teams now set.
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Post by ucf (Air Republic) on Apr 18, 2021 15:54:41 GMT -5
On a rookie deal, you should have those option years waived?
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Post by stick (Disastercycle) on Apr 19, 2021 6:25:39 GMT -5
Future years come off for the amount over the minimum the player was signed for (compounded if multiple years)
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Post by Yuri V.(The Bruce Campbells) on Apr 19, 2021 10:23:50 GMT -5
Future years come off for the amount over the minimum the player was signed for (compounded if multiple years) I don't understand. I waived Claxton. Another team immediately signed Claxton. Why is Claxton listed under my owed money to cut players next year? Shouldn't I be complete absolved of any future obligations if someone has just signed him and are now on the hook for next year's salary?
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Post by stick (Disastercycle) on Apr 20, 2021 6:51:13 GMT -5
Technically it's a rookie deal (or is it) so the point is moot.
It's been like that for like 7 years or so, but to have dead money come off your books you'd need someone with capspace to sign the player for a certain amount, and probably give up an asset in the process.
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Post by ucf (Air Republic) on Apr 20, 2021 9:22:53 GMT -5
It has been the rule. I do think players signed at a min deal should see additional salary come off the previous owners books in following years. All that dead money just makes things less interesting. I don’t support 100% coming off because cuts should have some pain to them.
My compromise suggestion would be something along the lines of teams have the option to sign a player to a 1 season deal (no rights gained for future free agency) once the season starts. Maybe limit it to 1 or 2 deals per season. A team with cap space could later bid actual money and assume the rights after two weeks. That way above cap teams keep the leverage they deserve.
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